Descendants of Henry de Grey of Grays Thurrock, Essex, England
Sir Henry de Grey, Knight, b 1178, of Grays Thurrock, Essex, England, d 1219, Codnor, Derbyshire, England. He md Isolda Bardolf 1199, of Grays Thurrock, Essex, England, daughter of Sir Hugh Bardolf, Lord of Waddington, Riseholme, and Scothern, and Isabel de Condet. Children of Henry de Grey and Isolda Bardolf were: Sir Richard de Grey b abt 1208, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England. He md Lucy de Humez abt 1230, daughter of Sir John de Humez. She was b abt 1215. Child of Richard de Grey and Lucy de Humez was: Sir John de Grey b abt 1233, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England, d bef 5 Jan 1271/72. He md Lucy de Mohun abt 1252, daughter of Sir Reynold de Mohun and Hawise Fitz Geoffrey. Child of Henry de Grey and Eleanor de Courtenay was: Sir Richard de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1290, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England, d 10 Mar 1334/35. He md Joan Fitz Payn abt 1312, daughter of Sir Robert Fitz Payn, Lord Fitz Payn, and Isabel de Clifford. Child of Robert Fitz Payn and Elizabeth de Brian was: Isabel Fitz Payn b abt 1360, d 11 Apr 1394. She md Sir Richard Poynings, Knight, abt 1375, son of Sir Michael de Poynings, Lord Poynings, and Joan. LINE BSir John de Grey b abt 1214, of Shirland, Derbyshire, England, d 18 Mar 1264/65. He md: [1] Emma de Glanville abt 1232, daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Glanville and Margaret de la Haye. She was b abt 1217. Child of John de Grey and Emma de Glanville was: Emma de Grey b abt 1234, of Shirland, Derbyshire, England, d 1264. She md Sir William de Huntingfield abt 1255, son of Sir Roger de Huntingfield and Joan de Hobrugge. Child of John de Grey and Emma de Cauz was: Sir Reynold de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1236, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, and Wilton, Herefordshire, England, d 5 Apr 1308. He md Maud de Longchamp abt 1254, daughter of Sir Henry de Longchamp. She was b abt 1240, of Wilton, Herefordshire, England, d bef 21 Nov 1302. [1] Unidentified abt 1272. Child of John de Grey and unidentified first wife was:
Child of John de Grey and Maud de Verdun was:
Child of Roger de Grey and Elizabeth de Hastings was: Sir Reynold de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1330, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, d Jul/Aug 1388. He md Eleanor le Strange bef 13 Nov 1360, daughter of John le Strange and Ankaret le Botiler. Child of Reynold de Grey and Margaret de Ros was: Eleanor Grey b abt 1384, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales. She md Sir Robert Poynings, Lord Poynings, abt 1398, son of Sir Richard Poynings, Knight, and Isabel Fitz Payn. NOTES: a. Regarding the marriages of Sir John de Grey, The Complete Peerage states "he m. 1stly (it is said), Anne, da. of Sir William de Ferrers....", and "he m. 2ndly, Maud, who is said to have been da. of Sir Ralph Basset...", the operative words here in both cases being "it is said". Douglas Richardson's findings indicate that both marriages were taken from the 1619 Visitation of Leicester, which he found on the subject of de Grey to be quite inaccurate. He noted that the manor of Debden (in Essex) was originally a Bohun property, and that this was passed to Sir John de Grey and his wife Maud. Using papal registers and dispensations, arms quarterings, etc., he has conclusively proven that Maud (note the terminology used by CP) was indeed John's wife, but she was not a Basset, but rather a Verdun, daughter of Sir John de Verdun by his second wife, Eleanor de Bohun. He could find absolutely no evidence that Sir John de Grey ever married an Anne de Ferrers. For a complete discussion by Mr. Richardson, see his initial 15 Jan 2002 posting on soc.genealogy.medieval, entitled "Eleanor de Verdun and her daughter, Maud, wife of John de Grey of Wilton", (search words: Eleanor Verdun), and follow the thread of his subsequent informative and detailed postings. At about the same time of Mr. Richardson's discovery, John Ravilious, also a frequent poster on SGM, brought forth conclusive evidence that Sir John de Grey had an older daughter, Maud, whom he has identified from said evidence as the wife of Sir John de Moels (previously known as simply Maud). The newly-identified Maud de Grey, based on chronology, would likely be the daughter of John de Grey's first wife, who is currently unidentified, but almost certainly, as mentioned above, not Anne de Ferrers. CP: Vol V[463-464], Vol VI[123-125, 133-135, and chart following p 132, 171-174]; AR: Line 50[31-32], Line 143[29-30], Line 187[4]. Return to TOP of this page Return to INDEX FOR GREY Return to MAIN INDEX Return to HOME |