Descendants of Henry de Grey of Grays Thurrock, Essex, England
Sir Henry de Grey, Knight, b 1178, of Grays Thurrock, Essex, England, d 1219, Codnor, Derbyshire, England. He md Isolda Bardolf 1199, of Grays Thurrock, Essex, England, daughter of Sir Hugh Bardolf, Lord of Waddington, Riseholme, and Scothern, and Isabel de Condet.
Children of Henry de Grey and Isolda Bardolf were:
  • Sir Richard de Grey b abt 1208. See LINE A
  • Sir John de Grey b abt 1214. See LINE B
LINE A
Sir Richard de Grey b abt 1208, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England. He md Lucy de Humez abt 1230, daughter of Sir John de Humez. She was b abt 1215.
Child of Richard de Grey and Lucy de Humez was:

Sir John de Grey b abt 1233, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England, d bef 5 Jan 1271/72. He md Lucy de Mohun abt 1252, daughter of Sir Reynold de Mohun and Hawise Fitz Geoffrey.
Child of John de Grey and Lucy de Mohun was:

Sir Henry de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1263, of Codnor, Derbyshire, Hoo and Aylsford, Kent, and Grays Thurrock, Essex, England, d Sep 1308. He md [1] Eleanor de Courtenay abt 1284, daughter of Sir Hugh de Courtenay, Knight, and Eleanor le Despenser. He md [2] Joan bef 6 Jun 1301.
Child of Henry de Grey and Eleanor de Courtenay was:

Sir Richard de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1290, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England, d 10 Mar 1334/35. He md Joan Fitz Payn abt 1312, daughter of Sir Robert Fitz Payn, Lord Fitz Payn, and Isabel de Clifford.
Child of Richard de Grey and Joan Fitz Payn was:

Sir Robert Fitz Payn b abt 1321, d 21 May 1393. He md Elizabeth de Brian bef 16 Oct 1354, daughter of Sir Guy de Brian and Joan Carew.
Child of Robert Fitz Payn and Elizabeth de Brian was:

Isabel Fitz Payn b abt 1360, d 11 Apr 1394. She md Sir Richard Poynings, Knight, abt 1375, son of Sir Michael de Poynings, Lord Poynings, and Joan.

LINE B
Sir John de Grey b abt 1214, of Shirland, Derbyshire, England, d 18 Mar 1264/65. He md:
[1] Emma de Glanville abt 1232, daughter of Sir Geoffrey de Glanville and Margaret de la Haye. She was b abt 1217.
Child of John de Grey and Emma de Glanville was:

[2] Emma de Cauz abt 1235, daughter of Roger de Cauz and Nichole de Leigh. She was b abt 1220.
Child of John de Grey and Emma de Cauz was:

    Sir Reynold de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1236, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, and Wilton, Herefordshire, England, d 5 Apr 1308. He md Maud de Longchamp abt 1254, daughter of Sir Henry de Longchamp. She was b abt 1240, of Wilton, Herefordshire, England, d bef 21 Nov 1302.
    Child of Reynold de Grey and Maud de Longhcamp was:

    Sir John de Grey [a], Lord Grey, b abt 1255, of Wilton, Herefordshire, England, d 28 Oct 1323. He md:
    [1] Unidentified abt 1272.
    Child of John de Grey and unidentified first wife was:
      Maud de Grey b abt 1273, of Wilton, Herefordshire, England. She md Sir John de Moels, Lord Moels, abt 1288, son of Roger de Moels.
    [2] Maud de Verdun abt 1285, daughter of Sir John de Verdun, Lord of Westmeath, and Eleanor de Bohun.
    Child of John de Grey and Maud de Verdun was:
      Sir Roger de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1293, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, d 6 Mar 1352/53. He md Elizabeth de Hastings abt 1315, daughter of Sir John de Hastings, Lord Hastings, and Isabel de Valence.
      Child of Roger de Grey and Elizabeth de Hastings was:

      Sir Reynold de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1330, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, d Jul/Aug 1388. He md Eleanor le Strange bef 13 Nov 1360, daughter of John le Strange and Ankaret le Botiler.
      Child of Reynold de Grey and Eleanor le Strange was:

      Sir Reynold de Grey, Lord Grey, b abt 1362, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, d 18 Oct 1440. He md [1] Margaret de Ros abt Nov 1378, daughter of Sir Thomas de Ros, Lord Ros, Knight, and Beatrice de Stafford, and [2] Joan Asteley bef 7 Feb 1414/15.
      Child of Reynold de Grey and Margaret de Ros was:

      Eleanor Grey b abt 1384, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales. She md Sir Robert Poynings, Lord Poynings, abt 1398, son of Sir Richard Poynings, Knight, and Isabel Fitz Payn.


NOTES:
a. Regarding the marriages of Sir John de Grey, The Complete Peerage states "he m. 1stly (it is said), Anne, da. of Sir William de Ferrers....", and "he m. 2ndly, Maud, who is said to have been da. of Sir Ralph Basset...", the operative words here in both cases being "it is said". Douglas Richardson's findings indicate that both marriages were taken from the 1619 Visitation of Leicester, which he found on the subject of de Grey to be quite inaccurate. He noted that the manor of Debden (in Essex) was originally a Bohun property, and that this was passed to Sir John de Grey and his wife Maud. Using papal registers and dispensations, arms quarterings, etc., he has conclusively proven that Maud (note the terminology used by CP) was indeed John's wife, but she was not a Basset, but rather a Verdun, daughter of Sir John de Verdun by his second wife, Eleanor de Bohun. He could find absolutely no evidence that Sir John de Grey ever married an Anne de Ferrers. For a complete discussion by Mr. Richardson, see his initial 15 Jan 2002 posting on soc.genealogy.medieval, entitled "Eleanor de Verdun and her daughter, Maud, wife of John de Grey of Wilton", (search words: Eleanor Verdun), and follow the thread of his subsequent informative and detailed postings. At about the same time of Mr. Richardson's discovery, John Ravilious, also a frequent poster on SGM, brought forth conclusive evidence that Sir John de Grey had an older daughter, Maud, whom he has identified from said evidence as the wife of Sir John de Moels (previously known as simply Maud). The newly-identified Maud de Grey, based on chronology, would likely be the daughter of John de Grey's first wife, who is currently unidentified, but almost certainly, as mentioned above, not Anne de Ferrers.
SOURCES:
CP: Vol V[463-464], Vol VI[123-125, 133-135, and chart following p 132, 171-174]; AR: Line 50[31-32], Line 143[29-30], Line 187[4].

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